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Thursday, July 20th


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Good morning and welcome to another edition of living veteran San Diego public service presentation of the and a count San Diego radio stations and Jerry Lee. Circulates San Diego's a local grassroots organization dedicated to creating great mobility choices and more workable and by Kabul neighborhoods. With the goal of making the region of better and safer place to live work. Learned and play joining us this morning is circulates San Diego executive director Jim stone. Welcome Jim good morning let's start with some background information on circulates San Diego this is not one of those organizations. That people go out. No doubt that's the toast little bit about the organization here or there might be you know a couple dozen people who have known about this. We we've actually been around for quite a few years we actually started as two separate non profits one was called walks San Diego. In his that name would imply we focused on walk ability the other one was called moves him he only focused on public transportation and we merged back in 2014. And change the name to circulate San Diego in our our mission is basically. To help create excellent mobility choices. And vibrant healthy neighborhoods. And what what was the motivation and for starting an organization like this those other organizations. So actually walk San Diego was started by by two guys they Schumacher and Andy Hamilton. Davidson is transportation planner in handy as an environmentalist and and has an urban planning background. And they both agreed that San Diego's just dynamite place to live but man does that sucked trying to block at some of these neighbors and it's really tough. And they thought that we've got the best weather in the world arguably. I mean you'd think we'd have. The most walking in the most watchable place has been in fact you know you can look at other cities that did have far better watching conditions places like Minneapolis now. Not to degrade Minneapolis it's a great city that I don't wanna be in Minneapolis in January sore I'm a warm weather guy now. So they set out to make it a more walk friendly city. And the other organization moves in and in the wac was formed in 1998 so we go way back moves in it was formed in 2004. And basically it was formed to to create. Better mobility options when it came to public transportation. And there's a lot of overlap between those two things because we like to say that every transit trips starts with a walk and ends with a walk. So for example I take to try to work every day and put it you know I walked to the college stuff wanna get off the drawing a walk to my office. And and that's true for most transit trips of those two things are related and the other thing we did when we emerged as we start getting more involved with land use we found in fact it land use really drives everything else it. It drives how likeable community is. He drives how well the transit performs in has a lot of other implications. Financial implications environmental implications. So it is really all comes down to how do we choose to develop our land where the land use patterns. And circulate San Diego is not. I'm just concerned with mobility issues in the city of San Diego right do your talk in the whole county right. You know we focus we focus in San Diego County where actually do some work outside its annual coney. We're just wrapping up program in San Bernardino say frost school programs. And we're involved in another safe routes to school program and el centro. But for the most part we focus our attention and all the cities and then some of the unincorporated areas in Sinegal company's well. Now how long you've been with circulates and I've been with the organization for about six and a half years. And you know I started. Coming from a background in in science and biology. And ecology and conservation so I have to admit that yeah. I didn't know an awful lot about the stuff moment I knew how to walk I learned that when they should know about a year year and apple. But I couldn't claim to be an expert on anything else but I've learned quite a bit and it's been really interest me because you know my background blah. For the most part is is ecology site I tend to bring in ecological perspective. To walk abilities so when I think of walk ability for example. I wanna make places more workable and CDs. Because if we do that will have less need to do what we call Greenfield development to go out into some people call the urban wild lands interface with the suburban wild lands interface. And we were talking about the fires that have just popped up and recently and not just here in the same region but all over the southwest and the people who are most at risk are living in the east peace. Wild land interface areas and we're seeing more and more fires they're bigger they're more intense their scarier. So if we. Don't do is much development there we preserve natural habitat which is really critical but we're also keeping people. Out of harm's way. Sowell wasn't that attitude you and to circulate San Diego is totally out of here. Europe realm of force spectrum of experience in the past when I've been in the nonprofit world my entire life I've just that's where I've been. And all of us who work in this field we do it not to get rich because we don't we do it because we wanna make a difference and what was attractive about circulates in you know it's it was making a measurable. In a demonstrable. Difference and I'll give you an example so lakeside. We did a program several years ago called Saint Francis school image that we do a lot of safe process will work. The idea behind Saint Francis schools actually pretty simple but powerful some years ago announcing kid about 50% of his walk to school every day. If you look at it now it's more like 15% depending on where your where you're talking about. In a few years ago is actually down to around eleven maybe 12%. So with say for us a school we go in and we teach kids how to be safe when they're walking or biking to school. And by the way kids wanna do it they're pretty psyched about having that independents that freedom to walk. The parents on the other hand paralytic freaked out you know we've got this 24 hour news cycle that frankly scares the hell out of people. And makes it seem that it's dangerous and you know there may be some dangers out there but then not anymore so Manila when I was kid. So we also help parents get more comfortable with the idea we set up things like. Getting seniors out on the streets and in kind of keeping nine Kate's that we make these intergenerational programs as well. While out in in lakeside Italy few elementary school we did this nine months they've process school program and by the time we're done. We increase the number of kids walking to school by a 125%. Now what that means from an environmental standpoint because now don't forget I got environmental Stan I'm. Every time a parent drives the child to school they're burning gasoline and that is putting particulate pollution in the air it's putting carbon pollution here is putting. All kinds of stuff in here benzene in them just nasty stuff that you don't wanna be breathing. So by. Limiting that trip we've cut back on a little bit of greenhouse gas we cut back a little bit of pollution so we can all breathe easier so. I can measure how many cars are making these trips by the way the short trips to the worst ones because when a car for starts up. In the engine isn't warmed up yet in its so with putting a lot more pollutants then it's warmed up and drive and on the highway it's a 5560 miles an hour. So these short trips. Actually account for quite a bit of pollution in weakened. We can say while X number of troops are not happening because we've got work is Wharton school and by the way. The kids are watching schools are some research has chosen not only are they fitter and healthier. But they do better the more alert by the time they get the schools are awakened the ready to learn. Yeah now I've I grew up in new York and and I I had to walk to school because we were. To close yet to be certain mileage away from the school before you got got Voss yep he's I had I had to walk good mile two miles. Walk with my friends and yeah you're alert you're awake by the stymied them for sure especially if you're in in that. An area like New York we have with. And I actually I grew up in New England so I had winters well and but I only had a half mile walk to school but it was uphill both ways. And out now circulates San Diego's work in goal. Again is to enhance the quality of life. For all San Diego and if you do then in several ways. By enhancing economic opportunity addressing human health and safety protecting the natural environment and improving social equity. Talk about those those pleas for sure so let's talk about social equity is that there's a couple of things that link social equity to transportation. Number one in this is a shocking statistic. But in San Diego there was a study done a couple of years ago. That said that if you are living a low income neighborhood your walking your chance of being hit by a car or ten times greater. And if you're from a more affluent neighborhood walking around in a more affluent neighborhood there's simply more low income people getting hit by cars so that's an equity issue. There's another study that was done fact a couple of studies on this. That found it upward mobility is limited. If you have limited access to transportation. And it's enhanced if you have access to high performing transportation. So if you can't get your job or getting to your job takes an hour and a half to two hours. And it makes you late or it just makes for a very difficult commute he chances to serve climbing the success that are diminished. So there's an actual direct one to one correlation between. How good the transit as you have in your life in what you're chances are sort of pulling yourself up by the boot straps and in making better living for yourself solicit just a couple of examples of other equity and there are certainly others as well. For the economy has lots of stuff there so down in the the bird rock section of La Hoya. There's a lot but a one mile stretch of road and back in 2006. So people started talking about putting this round abouts in some. It some bicycle lanes and enhance from the sidewalk. And there was a lot of talk about it some people frankly were against that as a matter fact a lot of people are against the people around here hate roundabout. They just think their awful well there you know they're not that bad I've driven through I've driven through round abouts in New Zealand where they drive on the other side of the road and I could still manage that so. So you get used to it but in any case. He finally went through and around 2008. The project was built. And we did a study of the economics of that stretch of road in the distance is there. And we found that after those enhancements those businesses saw in increase in the sales receipts of about 2225%. And we went back and looked at the sales receipts in the second year after the construction we found the same thing to sustain twenty to 25%. Increase. In in sales receipts so. When you make an environment more bike friendly more walk friendly if you think about this for second on this stretch of liable or people driving 4550 miles an hour. They drive by your business. They don't even see what's in your window of middle won't stop them by what's in your window but if people are viking Meyer walking by. These are honest maybe some I want it to you when you're so they go in it also attracted more businesses like that the there's a coffee roasters there and so not only. Did the businesses that were there do better that attracted more businesses some more jobs more tax revenues just all around better for everybody as a sidelight by the way. Somebody did and knowing study and they found it. Dramatic decrease in the noise levels. A car driving 25 miles an hour makes way less noise in the car driving through fifteen miles an hour so that made for more pleasant environment as well. What's the deal with the the roundabout does it affect. The environment as it does it make it easier for pedestrians. So. A well built around about it are some some round about there are so great. But but if their properly designed. What they'll do is they'll actually enhance the flow of traffic. So that if you think of a four way intersection for example that's got stop signs that all four sides. So each car that comes up that intersections got to stop. And that means the car behind it has to stop the car behind it has so it's our queuing up. I gotta let the next guy go to your left in you know there's all that stuff going on so Carson back up so you get this congestion around four way intersections. With a roundabout. You go into the intersection and you just sort of slide into that slow moving traffic so constant flow that is a constant flow exactly. So from a traffic engineering standpoint that's what you want you want a flow of traffic. But the beauty of round abouts is they also slowed traffic down. So if somebody does need to cross the street there it's easier for them to cross the street it's easy for the driver to stop safely and let them get across the street. And god forbid if there's that in a crash and somebody's hit. They're going to be less likely to have a serious injury if you're hit by a car going forty miles an hour you've got about a maybe 15% chance of surviving that crash. And the other hand if you hit by car going twenty miles an hour you probably. Maybe and 90% chance of surviving that crash so. Slowing down the speech has a huge safety implications and that's one of the things were hustling trying to do is come trafficker and just get people who drive limits lower. I know we have we have tea around van Allen in Santee ya so you drive direct yes we think and I have been through a couple before. An and I can remember where else not here San Diego woods somewhere else had been visiting in roundabout there as well. Yep people. Who haven't experienced them or they happen to go through bad weather they're just totally turn on the iPad screen it's. Just not used to it. But once people start using like the with the bird rack. People although cynics you know. You drive down auto boulevard in and you just you just go you don't have to stop at a stop sign. Which by the way also. Inclusion gas mileage because stop and go driving is with. It's that the gas yet so in that means if you use less gas you're putting less come dioxide and other pollutants into the air actually Barack is the first round about it ever. I ever went through yeah yeah. Now Libya. Safe routes to school program you mentioned the a couple of those those are that's part of your education. Program right well it's it's more than education. It's. It's it's education it's awareness. It's encouragement. In in I mentioned before it's not so much that the kids need that much encouragement they wanted to do this. We have to kind of incurred to parents to let them do it so there strategies. That we engage in that make that happen so for example where this thing called the walking school books. And you think about it's like it's pretty simple concept we say okay we arrange for some maybe couple parents to take Mondays another couple currency to state. In this is prescribed route that. When we created map for them and and so the kids in the neighborhood and walked on the streets and they sort of join apple on the ways that was not an actual physical Boston all the kids walk together. And so there's a safety element the parents and they're keeping and I indicated so the parents are comfortable kids are having fun to hang out with the bodies. They're not you know boxed up in this this car that they can interact with anybody and they get the school they've gotten a little bit of exercise. But really kids are just not getting the amount of physical activity that there are supposed to beginning. Saint Francis school in most cases helps get kids very close to their power a day depending on you know how from the have to walk but between Walken school walking back. It it gets them closer so it got a lot of benefits definitely. Notice the divisions heroes initiative. So vision zero started in Sweden and I think it was 1997. There so it's a very elegant concept and it. It makes a lot of sense it basically says that people dying on our streets which we except it's just a fact of life. Is really should be unacceptable. And it looks at three fundamentals to achieve this number one road design. Number two education and number three enforcement. Road design if fewer traffic engineering you went to traffic engineering school back in say 19651977580. We talked about the flow of traffic before that as you month for your traffic engineer in the flow of traffic that's which we agreed. If the traffic is flowing unimpeded guess what grade you get in and day everybody won today right. Nothing you know little stop and go on me you know can you get to be in if you have to stop and maybe wait a minute you'll get it's the last few lunacy I don't know indeed slate is really backed up when you can even get an F. When the horrible get a half so that's it's called level of service. In believe it or not that is the system. It virtually every city in California in the country is applied to judging. How well our streets work especially our intersections they would greet them. And most of this city regulations they have these these plans that did that are. Basically they. Determine how this the streets are configured and in any case. Do all these plans that say you must have a level of service of a beer see if you can indeed. God forbid your eerie and have you must mean the gate in effect we have the California environment cardiac sequel. That also up until very recently required mitigation for this stuff and it's sad that you've got to make mitigation. Which usually meant widening the road so let's say. I want across the street and street's got Orleans. In each lane is 24 feet plus some space on either side so the road ends up being. Eighty feet wide that's a lot of road to cross now. Traffic engineer comes along says I would add and add a couple more Linksys now crossing a hundred foot road for God's sake. You know if I'm an elderly person coming in to do that cinema I mean. And the wider the road the more encourages people to drive faster so the speed starting going up. So we we started back in the fifties designing these roads. Based the engineering traffic engineering my current flow of traffic. Started designing these roads these courage people to drive faster. And discourage people from walking and biking doing anything other than driving. So patient zero said wait a minute that's all wrong. We need roads that work for people not for cars but for people gestured people in cars but there's other people on the roads as well. So we need to re engineer redesign our roads so that they don't kill people so that's the one of the biggest things with visions are but we need to educate people. Everybody uses the road I don't care if you're a driver pure bicycle stick your pedestrian. Your runner. We need to understand that the basic rules of the road and what you should and should not do we're seeing an awful lot of distracted driving distracted walking distracted. So much bicycling but I. I'm actually seeing people on pikes. Texting for guys they often write it by picks yet no hands on him apart texting you kidding me. No don't do that please so we need to educate people. Drivers we need to educate them to give the right away. We need possessions to understand that. When drivers making a left turn you have to be careful that they don't know receives so do we know exactly what the behaviors are. We can educate those behaviors and finally because unfortunately not everybody is responsive to education there's law enforcement. The law enforcement should be targeted again we know which behaviors failed to yield for example. They put people at risk they kill people. So we work with law enforcement to target these behaviors and make sure we basically get people to stop engaging in risky behaviors on the road. New York was the first city in the cut in the US to dot patient zero in a witness it first I think two years. It cut his Fatone rate by almost a third and their continue to drop it down so the thing about visions here that I've heard. It is I get asked really can zero. That's what you're saying you gonna reduce it to zero and I say yes. And I see the look on the face ice ice that while it let's try something what do you think are reasonable. Rate should be attainable raider reasonable rate however you like caught Michael I don't know maybe let's see we can reduce it by. 50% 60% so people get bowled a 70% I think okay. So 7% that's like everybody that's we're gonna try to do yet that's good. So you know how about for your family. In your friends your close friend what's the acceptable rate for them and changes. And often to become zero so that's why it's visions here and is it gonna be hard to get there yeah ideas. But you know we had 54 people died as a result of what we call traffic violence and sending them 2015 in the murder rate was 37. So it's any go directly more likely to die as a result of a motor vehicles when you are to be murdered. And wasn't like the like half of those. Fatalities and a little over half were dead just yet so if you think about the percentage of of people on the road or pedestrians. And the percentage of fatalities there pedestrians it's way out of whack so it it is more dangerous to be a pedestrian in that sense because you're not protected you know you don't have. Steel around your body and if you get hit by car if it's as we said if it's going higher rate of speed you're gonna die. And and San Diego became a day vision zero city and twice fifteen right that's correct. We we undertook a campaign starting in the beginning of 2015. We put together a coalition won nineteen or twenty different organizations. Some of the more like the chamber of commerce and some of them or other non profits of the local business improvement association. Other non profits of white groups and so forth. And just. Work with the people in the mayor's office have outlined what would need to be done here. Drafted a resolution with the help of the mayor's office in that resolution with City Council in October. 2015 was adopted that's Woodson who became visions or city. Now now part of visions here of the the initiative and in the city of sandy will be you know there's zero city. There's thing that you call a fatal fifteen right do you explain what that is. Well so after we brought a lot of attention to this issue. Of traffic violence and people being seriously injured or killed by motor vehicles. City auditor actually became very interest until they did a very. Detailed in depth audit of pedestrian safety in particular. And they identified. Some sixty or more intersections. Did at a high number of crashes that them. In by the way I should have pointed out that that the premise behind visions hero is a data driven approach so. There are I don't know how many thousands of intersections in the cities in the eagle and many many miles of roads. They all present risk to a certain extent but some of them clearly. Present more risk than others. And when we worked and divisions are campaign we are able identified. Eight core or the choruses is it just sort of fancy name for street but. University avenue for example I'll comb over you Clinton avenue Broadway. Fifth Avenue. We identified heeded these streets of course that accounted for nearly a third. Of all of the fatalities and serious injuries for pedestrians. Just eight streets. In and we conceded the you know when you put a dot for every every. Crash that happens that but we we don't call them accidents. Because an accident means it you know and it just you know like a tree fell on my car that's an accident in a fire running facilities across the street. And I'm not paying attention I don't get in the right away that's not an accident so we'd only let people off hook. So anyway these these crashes. They occur in in the same places year after year so the fate of fifteenth. We looked at these intersections in this again it was the work that was done by the city auditors office. And we saw that there are some intersections that over course of fifteen years or. Fifteen almost when he collections in these are pedestrian crashes. And so we decided man we got to bring some attention to this so we identified the fifteen worst. And we said we call them the fatal fifteen. Not not everyone was responsible for a fatality but we're talking about there was at least eight people. Hit it each one of these entries that it's in in again some Italy eighteen people. So we call upon the city to may immediate improvements on peace in the improvements included. A high visibility crosswalk which some people call latter striped crosswalk receivers right I think the city calls and continental cross talks but. There's across what's remember that that The Beatles Abbey Road goes so that crosswalk they had those white bars and it. That is the type crosscourt we're talking about because it's really visible to the rising more of those yelling while. So the city the city actually had a policy where it wasn't. For the most part wasn't putting cross talks because loses paper that was written years ago by a traffic engineer from the cities and you know. Who posed the question at the end of the papers saying we need to study whether or not cross walks create a false sense of security for pedestrians. In that one line got people going saint of pedestrians are they get a false sense of security from crop we should stop pain cross what's. It's sending a step stop paying cross watch a lot of other cities filed lead so. Anyway we know it doesn't do that so I mean possessions still to be careful we need high visibility cross walks. So that was one of the improvements we want to count down timers you know when you cross industry mussina red flashing hand yet and how does that mean because I. Two or three seconds to 32 I'd tell it. Well you know the technology existed just counts down so int int and you can set that. You know there's some intersections that gives you thirty seconds across. Some they're they're putting up the fifty or 55 so countdown timer and then the third thing it's not everybody can see. So we also want portables so there's an audible timer count on camera and I didn't vote his ability crosswalk and that's what we call on the city to do. In the city's working on that they actually had fifteen intersections that they wanted to focus on some of the more are some others they've improved theirs they're working on ours. And we're just calling upon the city get this done as soon as possible because we just don't wanna see more people. Die in writes I mean. Imagine the horror of having somebody your family killed because there by car that happens fifty quilt for pedestrians 2325. Times here in San Diego. And we just we don't need those kind of trend and it's anymore now. In in the economics behind that. That that. Federal Highway Administration puts that that the cost of a of a fatality in about nine million dollars so if you look at the pedestrian fatalities. Or are there with the all the traffic fatalities in 201554. Of them kind nine million dollars and that's like. 500 million dollars it costs so even if you do you don't have humanitarian bone in your body and I think most of his do. If you wanna forget about the human impact. The economic impact is really if you really don't mention. You know we could fix all that for way less than 500 million dollars. So we can actually be saving money right. Network word yes that at a time line up real real quickly how can somebody get involved with circulate San Diego how can help you with your mission. Well we have. And have called best walk hand you can do what we call a walk on it which essentially means. You can assess your neighborhood streets and yell walk will they are so it's it's called best walk. And you can get in on an iPhone owner warning android and and it's all one word BE ST WAL Casey can download that it's free it's in Spanish or English though. After bilingual you can use either one of your speak Spanish news that so ground as a walk on its force go to our website circulate ST dot org. 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